but i actually still think we can gets it done. >> so what does the lack of a fiscal cliff deal with just days left in the 2012 mean for the markets? joining us from the cme, kevin ferry of cronis futures management. it's sad to watch all those clips back to back and realize where we are today. >> it's tough. mar's comments really ring perfectly at the end of that. that's for sure. >> and so just sort of set us up for the market day or maybe even the market week to the extent we have one left. how -- how do you think about the way the market may trade given the fact that we may have next to no deal likely i think before january 1 or at least in we do it's a baby. baby deal. >> right. right. well, here's what -- here's what we're observing so far, andrew. that the only significant move that we've really seen from the market has been the nighttime move when they walked away. and the rest of the session was actually quite quiet. so as far as the u.s. markets really putting pressure on the deal, we think it's been kind of void. so the real key, the trade that everyone now is listening, e